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According to Smith (1975) [smi75], the Bahamas has three "cross" flags, each with the national flag in the canton:
Nick Artimovich, 29 April 1996
Concerning all three ensigns in Album 2000 [pay00] - Difference regarding the
images below is in width of the cross. However, I believe that
Album might here more exact, but it seems that other sources I
have consulted in brief does not give definitive answer. In some
[smi80, smi75, zna99)]the
width of cross is apparently equal to the width of the three
stripes of the flag in canton (so it 1/7 of height), while
Shipmate Chart and Album 2000 (and 1990 corr. 26) have the cross
thinner (say 1/8 of height). WFD, have surprisingly something
else - the cross horizontal bar seem even wider the 1/7 (but it
is not easy to judge that), but also the vertical bar is notably
much wider.
Another question that is connected to the one above is the shape
of the triangle in canton flag - is it stretched as the national
flag is (to fill up the canton), or are only the stripes stretched
and the triangles is still equilateral? I suspect that the last
might be true, but...
In case I am right in this last one, the images in Album are
wrong
eljko Heimer, 7 February 2001
I agree. It is a mistake.
Armand du Payrat, 16 February 2001
About 4 or 5 months ago, a Bahamian yacht weighed anchor here
in Penang. She was displaying a nice 3x6 foot Bahamas red ensign.
I was able to measure it out.
The arms of its cross were exactly 4.5 inches wide. It also had a
label on it that said "Crafted in the Bahamas". There
was no brand name though. The heading was roped with Inglefield
clips on both ends. The ensign was sewn and not printed except
for the Bahamian flag upper fly canton. It was printed.
What was interesting to me was that the canton was printed almost
exactly 15.75 inches by 33.75 inches meaning it had to have been
intentionally printed up to be a canton and not a regular
Bahamian flag.
That made me begin to wonder if the same manufacturer might be
making Defence force ensigns as well with the 1/8 cross.
Additionally, a friend of mine had extended business
in the Bahamas earlier this year. I asked him to photograph as
many flags and ensigns as he could see when he was messing around
on his free time. All I ended up with was national flags, red
ensigns and several Defence Force ensign pictures. The red
ensigns were all over the place as far as over all proportions
were concerned, but several 1:2 types did show up and several of
them had skinnier crosses. With that said, a bunch of them had
wider crosses as well.
At the same time, the Defence force ensign pictures were pretty
consistent and depicted red crosses that I believe would measure
out more closely to 1/8 than 1/7.
Clay Moss, 29 April 2009
(1:2) image by Brian Ellis, 11 December 2016
Variant
(1:2) image by Clay Moss, 29 April 2009
I saw a flag on a ship that I am not able to identify using
your Flag Detective site. The flag was like the flag of Denmark
but the upper left quadrant of the red cross design was blue with
a yellow pennant coming into the blue quadrant from the left edge
of the flag. The name of the ship was the Tecam Sea. Any ideas?
Bob Wilson, 6 August 1999
Sounds like the civil ensign of the Bahamas - many ships out
there are of Bahamian registry because of tax laws, so you would
see its flag on the seas quite a bit. It looks like the Danish
flag (a red flag with a narrow white St. George's cross, and 1:2
proportions), with the Bahamas flag in the canton (upper-left
corner).
David Kendall, 6 August 1999
Merchant Vessel registered in Bahamas hoist the Bahamas civil
ensign. A foreign Flag merchant vessel calling at a Bahamian port
for commercial operations will hoist it too. There is no minimum
size to the ensign, it just depends on the ships size.
Jose C. Alegria, 6 October 2000
In September I could make a photo of a Bahamas civil ensign.
It was on a vessel of Celebrity Cruises in the lagoon of Venice.
Unlike the usual 1:2 ratio this flag had the 2:3 proportion.
Perhaps this has flag-dynamic and aesthetic reasons. A cloth with
2:3 or 3:5 ratio flutters easier in the wind than a more longish
one. The 2:3 and the 3:5 ratios are nearer to the "golden
rectangle" which is made with the golden ratio of 1.618.
Martin Karner, 12 January 2006
Proportions of 2:3 or 3:5 are seen globally far more than the
1:2 types. It has been a while since I was in the Bahamas, but
when I was there, I rarely saw any kind of flag or ensign
proportioned 1:2. Almost everything with the exception of a very
few government flags were 2:3 or 3:5. Come to think of it, I
don't recall ever seeing a 1:2 Bahamian red ensign in Bahamian
waters.
Clay Moss, 13 January 2006
The reasons are, I would suggest, more likely to be commercial
than aesthetic, and the fact remains that 1:2 is the correct
ratio for defaced UK and related defaced ensigns (however many
may be made differently).
Christopher Southworth, 13 January 2006
Square-shaped variant
(1:1) image by Clay Moss, 04 June 2013
I just won a very interesting ensign on eBay and it arrived here Saturday
from India. It is a 2x2 foot Bahamas merchant ensign. It was manufactured by
Turtle and Pearce in the UK. I wrote them and asked if they recalled making the
ensign, and if so, who requested it, and for what purpose. They are in the
process of trying to figure out why it was made. I will send an actual picture
tomorrow. Meanwhile, enjoy the gif image.
Clay Moss, 04 June 2013
eljko pointed us to
http://laws.bahamas.gov.bs/cms/images/LEGISLATION/SUBORDINATE/1991/1991-0089/FlagsandCoatofArmsRegulations1991_1.pdf,
but I have a hard time reading that. Mostly, I have no idea what the "First
Schedule" is, which is referred to for the specific designs of flags.
So, struggling on without that knowledge: Do the Bahamas follow the British flag
system? And does that mean their jack might be a square version of the ensign?
And would four square feet be an acceptable size for a jack? Would that make it
a general merchant jack, or should we be looking at positional flags?
Or do they follow the system where square flags are rank flags of some kind?
Peter Hans van den Muijzenberg, 30 August 2013
The "First Schedule" is kind of an "appendix" to the legislation and is found
further down the PDF, page CH.32-9 covering the jack, which is prescribed to be
swallow tailed version of the merchant ensign (we call it civil
jack).
(BTW, I believe that the second paragraph of Part VI of the First Schedule (page
CH.32-8) is an error in copy-pasting in the text and should properly read
"Argent a Cross Azure ...")
Regarding the following the British flag system, they do seem to have some
"exceptions" not usually found around the other such flags-ensigns-pennants set.
The merchant jack is swallow-tailed version of the ensign. Naval jack is square
version of the national flag.
If I read the legislation right, the merchant jack may be used by warranted
merchant vessels that may use government ensign, but are not "Unarmed
Government-owned Vessels", while it seems that there is no jack prescribed for
these "Unarmed Government-owned Vessels" (or there is the same one, if the are
indeed in the "Bahamian Registry"...).
Clearly, the mentioned legislation does not prescribe square version of the
merchant ensign for anything. I am inclined to believe that this was made as
ornament for some festivity or such rather then for use on ship (but hoisting
equipment on the example may prove me wrong...)
eljko Heimer, 26 September 2013
I live in West Palm, FL and visit the Bahamas quite often. What I have noticed
is that the Bahamian population does not seem to use the red Bahamian ensign on
their boats at all, (in all the islands). It is used on cruise ships registered
in Nassau, yes, of course, but the boats, large and small in Bahamian waters all
use the regular flag used on land (blue, yellow and black).
Even the ferries picking up passengers off the cruise ships stopping at Little
San Salvador (Half Moon Cay) use the regular flag regularly and without
exception.
I have no idea what Bahamian laws have to say about this, if there are any? Any
comment ? Thank you,
Ray Zanarotti, 03 April 2016
(1:2) image by Brian Ellis, 11 December 2016
Variant
(1:2) image by Clay Moss, 29 April 2009
Aircraft Marking
"The Bahamas Defence Force planes [they got two....]
carries the BDF flag on their fin."
The illustration shows a flag same as The Naval Ensign , but with
narrower hands of the cross and also outlined in red.
Source: Military Aircraft Insignia of the World [c2e98]
Dov Gutterman, 7 February 2000
In the past years they had only one (and even this one is out
of service after ditching). In the past they had other 4 planes,
all out of service today.
Photo of the sole RBDF Cessna 421C Golden Eagle (now on the sea bottom) with a
view of the RBDF flag on the tail (we at
www.lamilitary.com.
The Air Wing was formed in 1982.
Dov Gutterman, 11 June 2004
Senior Officers Pennant
image by eljko Heimer, 11 January 2012
Commissioning Pennant
image by eljko Heimer, 11 January 2012
Commodores Pennant
image by eljko Heimer, 11 January 2012
Senior Officer, Commission Pennant and Commodores Pennant are probably based on the British model, replacing red for green, but I attach them anyway
Overall proportions of each of them are speculative.
eljko Heimer, 11 January 2012
(1:2) image by Brian Ellis, 11 December 2016
Variant
(1:2) image by Clay Moss, 29 April 2009
I found in Smith (1975) [smi75]
the state ensign of Bahamas: white British ensign with a blue
cross. The blue of the cross is obviously darker then the one of
the Bahamas flag in the canton - one of the rare examples of two
shades of blue touching each other!
In his 1980 book [smi80] Smith
doesn't give any state ensign for Bahamas. Is this still in use
and forgotten by Whitney, or is it rather other way around -
forgotten by the Bahamians and remembered by Whitney?
eljko Heimer, 7 October 1996
According to Album des Pavillons [pay], this ensign is now used by the
Reserve Navy.
Ivan Sache, 30 March 1999
Concerning L'Album 2000 [pay00],
shouldn't the naval reserve ensign be rather classified as
variant civil ensign?
The naval reserve ensign is hoisted by private vessels, right?
eljko Heimer, 5 January 2001
Yes. I agree.
Armand Noel du Payrat (author of [pay00]), 8 January 2001
In National flags and distinctive markings - Change Nr 1 [pay01] - Page BA 1.1 - Naval
Reserve ensign - Change in the FIAV grid. Dot moved from
"State ensign" to "civil ensign".
Ivan Sache, 8 October 2001
The flag with the Blue St George's cross is the "State
Ensign" which I suppose is the same as "Government
Ensign". There is also a Blue Ensign, but it is defaced and
we don't illustrate it.
According to Barraclough: "Consular Officers have a flag of
navy blue with the National Flag in the canton and the whole arms
in the fly"
Martin Grieve, 29 April 2009
I have consulted Captain Allens, Ministry of National Security
Bahamas Government, Retired Port Director, as to the names
and uses of these flags. He has assured me that this flag is
really The Bahamas State Ensign. It is flown
on vessels that are owned and operated by the Bahamas Government,
Ministry of National Security, Port Department.
These are vessels that patrol the harbours, inlets and canals
around the islands of The Bahamas.
The Bahamas does not have a Naval Reserve.
Cheryl Strachan, 21 March 2010
In Whitney Smith's book "flags and Arms through the ages
and across the World" , published in 1975, the reader is
informed via the FIAV grid system that this flag is indeed the
"State Ensign".
Martin Grieve, 22 March 2010
(1:2) image by Clay Moss, 29 April 2009
In Album 2000 [pay00] - Civil
Jack. 1:2 - This is the same flag as The Civil
Ensign, but swallow-tailed. How "deep" is the
indentation, I don't know, about 1/3 of length, maybe good
approximation. (It's certainly less than the triangle from the
national flag would be set here.
eljko Heimer, 7 February 2001
image by eljko Heimer, 11 January 2012
Finally, what about the naval jack? One could conceive that from the description
a square flag is hinted, but is it really so in accordance with
the British traditions, or is the jack simply the same as the national flag,
smaller in size?
eljko Heimer, 11 January 2012